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TrixyRoux
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 Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:31 pm Post subject: True Quadroon |
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Macunaima
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Trix, why the adjective "true" in front of quadroon? Are you saying that the women's parents are somehow genetically "pure"?
Furthermore, human genetics isn't like mixing paint. Depending on how the dice roll with the recessives, kids can come out looking any number of ways.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: True Quadroon |
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I'm really suprised at how black that girl looks. Damn. Shes the same color as her mother
Most "quadroons" i've seen look white. |
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b199er
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| Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Macunaima wrote: | Trix, why the adjective "true" in front of quadroon? Are you saying that the women's parents are somehow genetically "pure"?
Furthermore, human genetics isn't like mixing paint. Depending on how the dice roll with the recessives, kids can come out looking any number of ways. |
well to some extent it is kinda like mixing paint. you see Thandie newton is half zimbabwean half white IIRC, and her husband/partner is white. theres not gonna be any genuine Amerindian, Arab, Indian, Chinese traits coming up in the child (maybe some pseudo/faux traits). and in terms of ancestry we can assume thandie has a roughly equal proportion of black african ancestors as white european ancestors, and her quadroon child, would have roughly 25% of her ancestors from africa (zimbabwe/Southern African in particular), and 75% of her ancestors from europe. phenotypically it's anyone's guess how the features switch on, but that child is a True Quadroon. The emphasis on the prefix 'True' or 'Perfect' is to show that ancestrial background is very much known. in comparison can we say what a mulatto, quadroon, or even a Black person looks like in America? no we can't since the terms are way too blured and overlapped. Some Black's are whiter than that Quadroon, many mulattoes are really quadroons etc. it's educational in that we can use 'True quadroons' & 'True mulattoes' as a benchmark when quantifying & analyzing the ancestry and phenotype of racially mixed afro-americans. lot's of info here. read up Big Mac. 
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Macunaima
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| Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | in terms of ancestry we can assume thandie has a roughly equal proportion of black african ancestors as white european ancestors |
That's a huge assumption without knowing more about her family history. Indians and even some Chinese were all over Mozambique for centuries as were, needless to say, the Portuguese. Many of the Portuguese were, in fact, Brazilians because the old empire actively recruited in its administrators in its overseas colonies and sent them to administer OTHER colonies. We thus can't rule out "Native American" genes, either. A hell of a lot can happen in 500 years, Bigger, and unless you have a fairly comprehensive genealogy of Thande's family, one can't rule anything out. You're simply assuming because you KNOW nothing and that's not rational.
As for the white guy, is he American? If he is, there's a significant chance of him carrying a lot of "African" or "indian" recessives. Hell, Europe, too, had plenty of black slaves for a couple of hundred years, so we can't rule anything out, necessarily, simply because he's "white".
In other words, Bigger, based on what, exactly, do you presume that these two peoples' parents are "pure" when you only know one generation of the family? Without knowing much more about the families involved, we can't say shit, really.
Your problem, Bigger, is you know little history and are thus unaware of how jumbled up the human race has really gotten over the last five hundred years. You seem to presume that Tande's parents must be pure just because they come from Zimbabwe. As if Zimbabwe had been discovered by Europe sometime in, say, 1950... 
This is the problem with racists: they always underestimate the depth of human history and the breadth of human mobility.
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jazelle
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| Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: True Quadroon |
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| Priest wrote: |
Most "quadroons" i've seen look white. |
Like this...
Rowell's child is 1/4 AA, while Newton's child is 1/4 Bantu. |
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La Cienega Boulevardez
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| Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:19 am Post subject: Re: True Quadroon |
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| jazelle wrote: | | Priest wrote: |
Most "quadroons" i've seen look white. |
Like this...
Rowell's child is 1/4 AA, while Newton's child is 1/4 Bantu. |
I believe Victoria Rowell adopted a white child...the little girl in the picture.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: True Quadroon |
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| La Cienega Boulevardez wrote: | | jazelle wrote: | | Priest wrote: |
Most "quadroons" i've seen look white. |
Like this...
Rowell's child is 1/4 AA, while Newton's child is 1/4 Bantu. |
I believe Victoria Rowell adopted a white child...the little girl in the picture. |
No that is her biological daughter. |
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TrixyRoux
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More pretty pictures of Thandie and Baby
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mira
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Victoria Rowell's daughter is her own biological child. Victoria is the offspring of a white mother and black father and her daughter's father is German. |
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anastasia
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| I think her daughter looks way more black than the mother, Thandie Newton, I bet she was surprised her daughter looks so black. The daughter can easily be a mulatto , or just have had a white grandmother. My nephew looks more mixed and only his grandmother is white. I wonder if he is really the father, I have heard Thandie Newton, used to be very promiscious. Earta Kitts daughter looks completely white though, also a couple of Qunicy Jones kids look white. |
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anastasia
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